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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses feel as though they are the only ones assisted by God in their lives?

  by stillstuckcruz in

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  i was thinking about this while staring blankly at the assembly speaker today.

  a prestigious member of the gb.

  o joy.

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  I think it's even worse than that. When I heard outsiders talk about God's presence in their lives I figured they were either delusional or demonic. But even if I heard someone among the JW's, who wasn't an elder or pioneer, make some grand claim I figured they were imagining things. My husbands aunt claimed Jesus appeared to her and told her to stop messing around with drugs and devote herself fully to Jehovah. She believes it happened. I believe she was high when it happened. Yet if a pioneer claims somebody dropped off a bag of groceries on their porch, "Hallelujah! Jah sure does care for his full-timers!" The rest aren't worthy.

  Does that make any sense? I feel in kind of a rambling mood. LIke I should go to a bar and talk the bartenders ear off...
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  Cult Free Radio begins in less than TWO HOURS

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cult-free-radio.

  that's pretty much all the hype there is.

  go early to listen to a brief introduction and preview to tonight's topic.

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  Hey, MadSweeney! I heard your intro and it sounds interesting. I will try and tune in. If i don't participate it is because I am sort of technologically challenged and have never listened to a live stream...oh, and i have a morbid fear of publicly shaming myself.
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  For the Sisters: Were you ever happy you couldn't have male "privileges"?

  by Open mind in

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  watchtower policies clearly make women second-class citizens.

  i don't see it changing anytime soon.

  this thread is not about how ridiculous it is that a female is not allowed to hand out mags, territory, books or carry a microphone if a qualified male is present.

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  Once I heard that sisters will have an easier time adjusting to the new system because they're so humble and submissive.

  So that means paradise is just going to be one long exercise in humiliation and obedience? wow. One more reason to leave the WTS.
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  For the Sisters: Were you ever happy you couldn't have male "privileges"?

  by Open mind in

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  2. beliefs

  watchtower policies clearly make women second-class citizens.

  i don't see it changing anytime soon.

  this thread is not about how ridiculous it is that a female is not allowed to hand out mags, territory, books or carry a microphone if a qualified male is present.

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  I wanted all the privileges. I studied hard and applied myself to everything I was told to. I wanted to go to Bethel and be used and needed. Sisters aren't really needed that much.

  But as time passed and my interest in playing along faded, I was grateful I didn't have to get up on the stage every week. I went with some friends one sunday to a distant cong. where the bro was assigned the talk. We had to get up at 5 and drive into the mountains, then have hospitality, then drive home. It was a long, exhausting day. I always thought I wanted to be married to an elder but not after that.

  As to judicial committees, I knew I wouldn't want to be on those. I can't go on treating people the same after I know they are idiots.
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  Ireland and Crisis of Conscience

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  i just finished reading the part of coc in which ray tells the story of those two brothers from ireland who came to the us to meet with the gb, only to be ignored then eventually pushed into disassociating themselves.

  ray mentions that ireland in general was having a hard time dealing with the heavy handedness of the gb, especially in regards to the new policy on disassociated ones.

  he made a comment i found interesting, "the branch office was well aware of the attitude of the irish witnesses, their disinclination to be dominated and dictated to" (p. 332).. i found that comment very interesting and it automatically brought up everything i knew about irish history: their rebellion against england, the protestant/catholic issue, the ira, etc.

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  Interesting information, thank you wobble.

  Your comment re: 'super-fine apostles' reminded me of a couple of young sisters I knew who went there to help out for six months. Ireland has always been considered 'need great' territory. I remember them coming back and complaining about how simple the people were. How they never wanted to do anything but sit in the pubs and drink and talk. I always thought that sounded awesome--but I am Irish. I have always wondered how those Irish bros and sis viewed these naive, condescending pioneers. Probably glad to see them leave.
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  Ireland and Crisis of Conscience

  by Lunatic Faith in

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  i just finished reading the part of coc in which ray tells the story of those two brothers from ireland who came to the us to meet with the gb, only to be ignored then eventually pushed into disassociating themselves.

  ray mentions that ireland in general was having a hard time dealing with the heavy handedness of the gb, especially in regards to the new policy on disassociated ones.

  he made a comment i found interesting, "the branch office was well aware of the attitude of the irish witnesses, their disinclination to be dominated and dictated to" (p. 332).. i found that comment very interesting and it automatically brought up everything i knew about irish history: their rebellion against england, the protestant/catholic issue, the ira, etc.

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  I just finished reading the part of CoC in which Ray tells the story of those two brothers from Ireland who came to the US to meet with the GB, only to be ignored then eventually pushed into disassociating themselves. Ray mentions that Ireland in general was having a hard time dealing with the heavy handedness of the GB, especially in regards to the new policy on disassociated ones. He made a comment I found interesting, "The Branch office was well aware of the attitude of the Irish Witnesses, their disinclination to be dominated and dictated to" (p. 332).

  I found that comment very interesting and it automatically brought up everything I knew about Irish history: their rebellion against England, the Protestant/Catholic issue, the IRA, etc. But mainly I thought of something my presiding overseer said a few years back. His son-in-law was a professional ax man used by the WTS to travel around and clean things up. He had spent a number of years in the DR helping with the new branch office, then he was sent to Ireland. Why? Apparently because Ireland had tons of issues, and always had. The branch office needed some "house-cleaning" and some rebellious attitudes needed to be straightened out.

  Is that an ongoing problem with Ireland, or could it possibly stem from the situation Ray revealed 30 years ago? What about the Irish makes them less likely to put up with BS? Or is it possible that all Europe are basically of the same mindset (i.e. France, Bulgaria, etc.)? Which, in my mind, makes them more highly evolved than us puritanical descendents. What do you think?
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  Diary of an Ex-Mormon- Must see for all Jw's still on the fence.

  by whereami in

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  hear the story of a young teenager indoctrinated into the mormon church and culture, growing to a man who would one day reject everything he'd been taught to believe.

  the similarities to the jw's are uncanny.. .

  stan's full story can be found in written form at:http://www.exmormon.org/whylft79.htm.

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  My dad was raised a Mormon and converted to the JW's when he was 20. All his family stayed Mormon and we would go down to Ogden and visit them every few years. From the time I was a teenager I would read and study stuff about the mormons--because it wasn't ok to do the same thing with the JW's--I never could shake the conviction that there were many similarities between them. I think that is what really helped me to see things more relatively and less dogmatically. They even have some of the same urban legends as the JW's.
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  Calling all Kilted Brethren

  by bigwilly in

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  ok, so "the kilted brethren" is a term coolhandluke, breck (lowkey lowsmith) and i came up with on another board, but all fans of unbifurcated garments qualify for membership .

  so whether you wear a utilikilt, a tartan or any other style, help me celebrate freedom and post ya pics!.

  this is me last summer at a brewfest.

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  Ahhh, the infamous Campbells! I love a man in a kilt!!
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  what age is the youngest COUNTED partaker of the EMBLEMS you know, we got one who is 29, from Slateford Cong in EDINBURGH

  by the max in

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  Yeah, I keep hearing he is really spiritual and has a lot of knowledge, so he has some people actually believing in him. But he recently had some sort of a breakdown, and I heard third hand he thought he was God's mouthpiece. I met him once and he seemed quiet and serious.

  I met a woman like that who became an apostate because the elders wouldn't believe Jah was using her directly to straighten them out.
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  what age is the youngest COUNTED partaker of the EMBLEMS you know, we got one who is 29, from Slateford Cong in EDINBURGH

  by the max in

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  21 in Bend, Oregon. But I keep hearing weird things about the kid so I don't know if he is entirely normal. Do they "count" him as an official partaker? Hell if I know!